欧博abgThe Forgotten Race At Air Base Speedway (Gree
@aldo-canzian
9 years ago
16 posts
Hi to everyone. First of all, I want to apoligize because of my language because I'm from Italy.
I've got a question to all of you great historic racing fans. Just one year ago, I noticed from racing-reference.com that the 1951 NASCAR Grand National Division race at Greenville was not helded at Greenville-Pickens Speedway but at the unkown Air Base Speedway. Indeed that race was always recorded as "paved", but the Greenville-Pickens Speedway was dirt until the early seventies.
Someone knows the exact place of that track? Was it at the former Donaldson Air Force Base (now Donaldson Center Airport) or at the former Greenville Municipal Airport (now Greenville Downtown Airport) or somewhere else?
updated by @aldo-canzian: 09/07/19 05:27:23PM
@tmc-chase
9 years ago
4,073 posts
Not sure yet on location. Hopefully others here have better information. But one of these previews indicates the place was a half-time DIRT track. I've found a couple of additional clippings that reference cancelled races at the track. But so far, I haven't found many promotional articles or ads for them that might include more track info or an address.
Many of the driver were bopping over from Darlington where they were doing practice and qualifying runs for the 2nd Southern 500. Any chance they'd bring the same car over to Greenville for a Saturday night half-mile race - and then take it back to Darlington? Could have I suppose.
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@tmc-chase
9 years ago
4,073 posts
I pulled on the thread of promoter Charlie Hicks' name. Looks like he was the promoter at the dirt, half-mile Greenville Textile Speedway as late as November 1950. I found this ad and race preview. The ad says GTS was located on Highway 25. Is it possible the track was renamed in 1951?
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@aldo-canzian
9 years ago
16 posts
There's an article by John Nelson & Tom Schmeh on page 12 of January 2015 SPEED SPORT magazine called "NASCAR's Forgotten Race". Maybe we can know something more if someone's got that one.
@aldo-canzian
9 years ago
16 posts
This site confirms that the Air Base Speedway was previously known as Textile Speedway and Greenville Textile Speedway. It says that the track was located 10 miles south of town on the the Highway 25 near the Donaldson Air Force Base.
There's was also a 1/4 mile track. Both 1/4 and 1/2 mile tracks are noticed as dirt.
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@aldo-canzian
9 years ago
16 posts
So I made a good research and I've got the answer. Looking at https://lta.cr.usgs.gov/ , i catched this:
SOLVED! =)
@dave-fulton
9 years ago
9,138 posts
Nice work!
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@hwf0712
6 years ago
2 posts
Apologies, as I'm bumping a thread. This thread has made some "infamy" from a recent Youtube video. Youtuber S1ap Sh0es is currently searching for photos of this track, however we have yet to be able to find any, and this thread has what we need, but it is dead.
@tmc-chase
6 years ago
4,073 posts
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@oklyn
6 years ago
2 posts
Hmmm guys, i think i found something really suspicious in the possible area of this speedway
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@oklyn
6 years ago
2 posts
Using all the photos that i got to see(from the video from S1apSh0es) there's nothing that look like it, for me this is a lost part of the speedway
@motorcityoctane
6 years ago
10 posts
[quote="MotorCityOctane"]
FOUND A NEW LINK!!!!!!! From Pontiac racing, they called it a PAVED!! track too. Pontiac sat out race #21 
and returned for race #23 at Air Base Speedway on August 25th. Erik Erickson was the driver racing a 1951 Pontiac
& was sponsored by Packer. "15 entrants recorded in the racing history books, observers believe that many
drivers/teams were preparing for the Southern 500, leaving mostly heavy hitters who were intent at participating in as many races as possible" https://pontiacracing.wordpress.com/tag/nascar-pontiac-erickson-air-base-speedway-greensville-textile/
Someone posted a pic to Jalopnik that shows what looks like the actual track & lighting. Sure looks like dirt to me.
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@motorcityoctane
6 years ago
10 posts
Found the actual race article kinda hard to read tho.
I will try to upload the Image of the clipping, not sure if it will work.
FLOCK BROTHERS TAKE ALL HONORS AT LOCAL STOCK EVENT
7,000 on Hand as Bob, Tim & Fonty finish 1-2-3 (not Buck Baker like Racing-ref)
Fans flocked to the Air Base Speedway last night & the Flocks thrilled the fans
Bob, Tim , Fonty came in 1-2-3 in the 200 lap 100 mile Grand National Stock car race
to cheer the over 7,000 fans. The race was held up for some time when word came down
that Tim Flock was on his way from a New York race last night. The younger Flock boy
fell in 20th place & in a matter of laps was in the first 10. Bob Flock the winner started
in 6th place & on the 7th lap took the lead over (can't read) Taylor driving the Hudson
Hornet out of Macon, Georgia. At the half way point behind Bob was Fonty in second
place & Tim in 3rd and Erick Erickson out of Gardenia was in fourth.
The last 2 paragraphs I can't read, I have access to all the articles give me some time
I will try to find more info.
updated by @motorcityoctane: 01/18/20 05:20:38AM
@motorcityoctane
6 years ago
10 posts
Found the Race Day article as well
The Purse was $5,700
Pole Time Thursday was 31.06 by Jesse Taylor
updated by @motorcityoctane: 01/18/20 05:20:38AM
@motorcityoctane
6 years ago
10 posts
Article 3 Another Q Day
@motorcityoctane
6 years ago
10 posts
And Another
@motorcityoctane
6 years ago
10 posts
updated by @motorcityoctane: 01/18/20 05:20:38AM
@tmc-chase
6 years ago
4,073 posts
Great adds!
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@motorcityoctane
6 years ago
10 posts
@motorcityoctane
6 years ago
10 posts
This was posted about a 5-6 days after the race.
"UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT"
@motorcityoctane
6 years ago
10 posts
Buck Baker & business partners leased the
Air Base track track shortly after the Grand national race
@motorcityoctane
6 years ago
10 posts
Sept 1, 1951 was the last article I could find announcing Baker, Kiser & Combs took control &
leased the the track less than a week after the first GN race. Why would someone build/promote
an event and then decide to lease a track less than 1 week after it's first big race
Sounds shady as hell like some tax evading/money washing. "7,000" people attending
this race & I don't see any permanent structures, facilities, bathrooms, etc.
Almost like they knew this track would never be used again.
Not one single mention of any race, results, sale or events for months after.
Buck Baker took control in less than 1 week & the Air Base track vanished from the earth
updated by @motorcityoctane: 09/03/19 09:22:34PM
@hwf0712
6 years ago
2 posts
The promoter, LC Hicks/Charles Hicks, was charged for trying to sell it with no liens on it, when he did have liens on it. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/617892224927268864/617922215177879552/unknown.png
Further Info:
-It hosted motorcycle races
-Sometimes just gave free grandstand seating
-Sold food
-6 feet of banking
updated by @hwf0712: 01/18/20 05:20:38AM
@zyfred
6 years ago
1 posts
this i very unclear but maybe it can help you guys
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@hyatt95
6 years ago
1 posts
This is very interesting. I want to do some digging myself on this. I get to do some video work for nascar and the next time I am at the track, I will try to talk to someone about this track (maybe Richard Petty?). I also do filming at an airplane renovation company located at the Donaldson Center in Greenville so maybe they will know something about the track.
updated by @hyatt95: 01/18/20 05:20:38AM